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Topic: First of the sockeye 2014 |
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sudsy
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My son and I picked up these two beefy bucks, this afternoon, just above the Vedder.
It was great fun till we got blocked off by a big jet boat who insisted on anchoring right where we were casting.
Sigh ..oh well …. too bad cause if these fishers got out of their boats and stood on the bar like the rest of us, they would have the room to back up and break off that 65lbs braid they inevitably get snagged. Instead they insist on interrupting neighbouring Bar Folks fishings, while they fool around trying maneuver their boats to save their gear, only to cut it off in the end.
BTW...The water is warm. Viz. is only 1 1/2 feet. The river still could drop a metre or so for things to be prime.
Hopefully more to come!
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sudsy
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-Goin'Fishin'-
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Great post, wicked pics.
I was out this evening mid river. Saw one chinook take flight 50yrds out. No one hooked up. Must of been 8 or so rods in the water.
No socks pulled out either. Soon
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alexfromrichmond
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subsy , take me and aaron fishing with u on Saturday or sunday we'll get beers ))
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mefishguy
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nice shots.
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sudsy
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Sorry buddy …the only beers allowed in my boat are the root variety!
happy fishin'
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alexfromrichmond
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I can make it root
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mefishguy
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sudsy; Are the sockeyes fairly large this year - hard to tell in photo. Were those under 10 pounds? 8? 6?
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aaronwilde
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Hahahaha Alex. Im guessing first one is 6 lb second one is 10 lb. Nice fish! Question is.. Were u bar fishing or bouncing? Keep at it
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-Goin'Fishin'-
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Look guys... It's the fraser river with a predicted massive sockeye run. If you two want your meat harvest, like many many people do, find a ride, grab your few bags of 1oz Bettie's, a spool of 20-30lb mono, 3 way barrel swivel, and whatever main line you have on your reel and find ANY spot on the fraser with a decent at least walking pace current.
Bomb that Bettie out there upstream and flip that bail over right away. The Bettie will begin to skip along the bottom with ur 10ft leader following it. Once you feel the weight stop and get geavy(which happens quick) set the frickin hook. Usually a snag, but you'll appreciate the fish on.
Sockeye is not a sport unless you're in salt. Get out there, even if it's mission bridge, just get out and fish. You'll learn so much frickin info just by watching and practicing.
Anyone who's tossing more than 2oz is gonna get snagged unless you're in chilliwack current(where the best BB fishin is btw).
Stop being needy and begging to go out with strangers. It's just awkward.
Great photos tho! I love how fresh they are. Mmmmmm
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aaronwilde
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We do get out all the time to fish. Just never tried BB harvesting yet. Alex figured if we are driving that far anyway that maybe someone who is headed out thata ways wouldnt mind cutting our learning curve down a ton.
We are headed tomorrow morning to give 'er a whirl.
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sudsy
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I try to avoid the weekends for the reasons I described in my original post.
I like to get out Mondays Tuesdays and Thursdays as my work schedule allows.
I'm open to the idea of taking a person along when i have a seat open , but I only take one other than myself to keep the weight down.I launch from the Dewdny Slough.
Hope you can find some fish and hook n to one or two
tight lines
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alexfromrichmond
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we did got out there . aaron got his fish , I lost my right from shore :D . thanks god my old bud guided us , he showed the setups , explain the rules , which we figured out make LOT of sense after fishing for a bit .
My goal was , I don't want to show up in a crowded spot and make everybody angry cuz im doing something right .
You said Just go , cast and be happy , but u never told us that u should cast to 1 o`clock , and retrieve at 10 o`clock . u never said that person downriver always casts first . So I guess my "begging" for tips and advises was success cuz me and aaron had a nice time , we got no problems , we casted by turns .
And every body hated ppl who probably listen to u and did "just go and cast"
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alexfromrichmond
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it still was a gangshow
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cagey
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glad you found a good sole to take you out and show you the ropes. good for you that you are wanting to learn correctly. you asked me several times to take you out but you forget I do not live there. come to Chase on morning in September and catch a Thompson River spring.
to the good sole who took Alex and Aaron out , good for you ! it is not everyone willing to take out a stranger. I have developed several friendships through this site , all of whom were strangers when I took them out or they took me out !
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alexfromrichmond
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ty cagey ) like I said I wanna learn
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Beak007
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Someone on Fishing with Rod reported Scale was on fire today. Everybody off to Scale tomorrow! lol.
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YZ125
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Been limiting in under 1 hour three days in a row.
30lb red was nice too
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alexfromrichmond
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me want spring badly  *cry
me don't like idea of flossing soxz ...
me want fishy
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mefishguy
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"Anyone who's tossing more than 2oz is gonna get snagged unless you're in chilliwack current(where the best BB fishin is btw)."
Now i've been around for a while and i've never heard that expression.
What and where is a "chilliwack current"? Is that accessible by shoreline? Thanks
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-Goin'Fishin'-
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Not sure if you wanna call it an expression but it's known that the fraser opens up and slows down below of chilliwCk.
1oz is plenty as your not likely gonna BB for sockeye in very deep fast water.
People throwing 3oz is gonna be slower and snagging up everyone's gear, or vide versa rather.
If you want to BB. Join the knuckleheads off annis exit. Head north. That's the current I'm describing versus say, mission bridge.
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mefishguy
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Ah ok - yes I know the area. Gill road and such.
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aaronwilde
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YZ125 do you fish popular bars? Wherebdo you limit so fast? Ive never caught a spring in my life. First sockeye the other day at Laidlaw. There was a girl working for government at laidlaw counting ppl/fish ratio at the entrance and she said at the end of the dau sat that 11 socks caught and 200+ people came through. I got one of the 11. I want a spring
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Unreel Luck
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Tasted soooo good 
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Art81
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Aaron and Alex. I think it's great that you want to learn but I agree that it's getting a bit awkward constantly asking people for spots and asking them to take you out. If someone is limiting out that quickly they probably will be gun shy to tell people where they are doing it because they know everyone will be there the next time they fish. I've been fishing my entire life and now that I'm retired even more and the best advice I can give you is just to go out and keep going out. The time you spend searching for answers on the internet is better spent on the river. Me and a lot of old timers will gladly give younger guys like you advice if we see you on the river because we see you're serious. We also know how many people lurk on these sites waiting to get info. Good luck.
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YZ125
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I've been fishing scale bar the whole time. Went out this evening and got my limit in 30 mins, its not hard. And whoever this guy is saying that 1oz is enough, you must be joking, 3oz is a minimum. It is always a gong show be it 3am or 8pm but i limit out and leave ASAP.
Here are some pics.
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YZ125
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YZ125
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YZ125
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Monahan
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Nice, looks like a gong show as always.
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-Goin'Fishin'-
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Depending on current, and what most anglers are using.
1oz has served me many, many socks. Most I've thrown was 2.
Great fish btw. Agree with Mon ^^ shoulder to shoulder of assholes.
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MoeJKU
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Heard of a lot of success already and the main part of the run has not hit yet I'll guarantee you that. Here is a pic from the salt, 2 hours of fishing.
You should try anywhere from 1oz to 4oz Bettie's works well on the Fraser. You don't want it drifting to fast. As the leader line won't stay perpendicular to the shore very long. Therefor you cover less ground as the line will parallel up river. If you use to much you won't bounce enough so the leader becomes parallel with shore giving you a small chance to catch anything. My two cents for the guys struggling out there.
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Monahan
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Thanks for the helpful info^^.
To the guys having some success, what size hooks are you using? The lighter the hook, it will float a little in the water and may increase chances? I was using a 1/0 as I thought it would be more sticky, didn't get anything.
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MoeJKU
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I use 1/0 sickle hooks them seem to work good for me. Like i said before try different weights if you are not hooking up, i have found that a 1oz betty at spots wont work at all then I switch to a 2 pr 3 oz one and it night and day difference. The further you drive out, i find the better the fishing is. people to bank size to fish ratio.
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aaronwilde
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i used size 3/0 hooks. I thought corky was a must because everyone else says it is but honestly I tried a hook with some wool and no corky and it makes no different. The current is so strong down there that your hook is not going to be on the bottom because you have no corky, I tested it where I could see a bit at the side and clearly the hook goes just fine. I caught my Sock that day without a corky. If your 3oz weight wont stay on the bottum what makes you think a nearly weightless hook will?
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Monahan
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You don't want your hook at the bottom, you want the weight bouncing and your hook and leader floating above, parallel to the weight. If your hook is at the bottom you will be snagging the bellies of the fish. You want the line to line up with their mouths.
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aaronwilde
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All I am saying is I noticed a corkie is not necessary for bottom bouncing all the time.
The hook stays off the bottom from the strong current alone.
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Monahan
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Yes, a corkie is useless, a bare hook will catch as many fish.
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aaronwilde
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Though some people would have you believe that the sockeye and springs indeed to bite and aren't being flossed. Haha
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Monahan
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They do bite, just not when bottom bouncing.
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MoeJKU
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Aaron you might want to rethink what you just said. Springs, chinook, coho, and chum are active bitters in freshwater, as well as salt. You mean you have never caught a spring on roe, shrimp, or jig with a 18" leader.
You can even catch them in the fraser bar fishing where the bait is stationary not long lining through their mouths.
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vancity
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Went out this morning to peg leg got my two in the first three casts
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aaronwilde
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I mean while bottum bouncing. Of course salmon bite! Even Sockeye from what I hear if conditions are the right. But lets be honest. Bottum bouncing isnt going to produce fish that bit lol
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cagey
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sorry you know all about fishing now Aaron. Hard to learn when you know it all. I have caught many springs bottom bouncing. guess what? they bit. flossing is a form of bottom bouncing which involves snagging the fish. Flossing is very much different due to the length of the leader and lack of bait .
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MoeJKU
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Very true Cagey, flossing is more the intent of the fishemen by the choice of leader lenght etc. You can bottom bounce a river with a 18" leader to suspend bait right of the bottom. you are not flossing as they are biting, you will see this a lot of the columbia river, and other rivers across the line. Done correctly with roe, shrimp, etc this works well in some systems.
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63vette
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went to peg leg and realized quik why I haven't gone to this spot in a very long time,we had a fella that thought it was cool to bully fishermen and instigate fights just for the fun of it. I know its a gong show sometimes but this guy took the cake .
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aaronwilde
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Cagey theres no reason to be like that.
Im just saying that when people are flossig and they say that the fish are biting, Using 20' leaders along side 100 people flossing trying to catch sockeye, that the sockeye arent biting! N if you get a sprig as a bi-catch, cmon!
saying it bit is either a joke or dilusion. I dont know it all about fishing but this is a matter of logic.. That is all im saying! Obviously fish can bite in other circumstances. Im sure you could use a 50' leader with a jig or roe or something and have a salmon bite. Im only talkin about flossing. Its fuxking harvesting (nothin against it) but had a few people tell me the fish are biting.
Thanks Cagey, very nice of you
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cagey
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so you are saying no salmon bite when bottom bouncing?
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aaronwilde
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-_- its a silly thing to even be arguing about! Of course they CAN bite. i was hoping the rain today would be enough for some fresh cap coho but nope
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aaronwilde
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Nice! I havnt tried the chuck much but out of my two times last month I got a coho I have waders n stuff too so I should get out there more often. Do you wade in or boat dump? When do springs show up at the mouth?
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cagey
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good change to your posts Aaron. It always looks better after you change your mistakes before others see it. AS I stated, flossing is only a method of bb using long leaders to snag the fish. In your original post you were more clear of your views that bb does not catch fish that bite. That is not correct at all. As i stated I have been bottom bouncing for springs for years. I use a 2 ft. leader just as I do when floating for them. The fish I catch bite the hook, unlike flossing. do not condemn bb'ing without knowing what you are talking about.
As for the gong show, you will not find me there with my 10 foot or 20 ft leaders. I'd be with you fishing the beaches etc for coho if I lived there.
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MoeJKU
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So how has everyones season been going? Whats the running total of tasty sockeye in the freezer?
Ill start with 41, most on the ocean though. Lots of sockeye heads for stugeon bait saved as well.
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-Goin'Fishin'-
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Only 11 from Tidal fraser for me.
7 candy smoked, 4 fresh off BBQ.
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Hi Speed
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18 above mission bridge
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MoeJKU
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That's why I go out on the ocean dumprat, I like it when the sockeye run it takes the goons of the rivers I want to fish anyways.
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prunehands
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Hey Moe, is that # all you or the boat?Nice
We've landed 11 for 2 trips.Should get stupid easy soon.
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aaronwilde
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Lol we just asked if anyone would be kind enough to show us how to Bb for Sockeyes since we were new. No one even took us from the forums, a real life friend took us. No boat either haha that would be a dream. We went to Laidlaw once and each hooked one Sockeye.
Heard its better on the north flow from Laidlaw for springs as the channel there is deeper faster water.
Anyone know if an abu 6601 c4 can be used in saltwater? Should i just rinse it in water good after n dry with cloth?
What about 6601c4 for a few BB sessions on the Fraser?
Also 1 Sockeye for me, first in my life LOL. 3 Coho this year too
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prunehands
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You can use it in salt, just don't get it wet.Not ideal.
And yes, wipe/rinse it
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-Goin'Fishin'-
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Aaron, I like how ur buddy there wanted nothing to do with bottom
Bouncing but then jump out on the river to do exactly that.
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aaronwilde
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Yeah he was discouraged by peoples stories of combat fishing and the gong show of flossing. But he wanted to catch fish. Now that we tried and he sees that it isnt so bad if you take turns, are polite, and have polite people around you, its not so bad.
Dump do you fish the tides at ambleside? Ive seen people casting at the mouth at highish tide when im crossing the bridge. The tides not that low the next few days... Wonder if its worth it. I need to go somewhere new to try my abu tomorrow lol
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Hotwheels
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Thinking about taking my son out to the Mission Bridge tomorrow anyone know if there is much happening there?
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aaronwilde
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Yeah I showed up at 10am ish. I live downtown in Van and rode my bike there.
Fiddled with the new abu reel (first levelwind) and eventually got the hang of it. Heavier lures (1oz+) were easy to cast far and not birdsnest badly, but lighter than an oz and It would birdsnest a lot and I couldnt get it down.
Its not for light fishing anyways so no big deal I guess? I have light spinning rods for light lures. Levelwind I got more for bar fishing/ float/ drift/ bb.
I tangled bad before I left haha. Tried casting super far with like half an oz lure and man idk wtf happened but I lost like 50-100 yards of spool when I untangled. My "just in case I catch one, grocery bag" was used to take my tangled line to the trash haha Practice makes perfect lol
Didnt expect to catch but saw a good amount of coho and even casted directly on them but they werent biting today. I was by the trainbridge mostly and went in the water a bit too.
Saw a native snag one. Where did you fish? I didnt see you? Maybe I can come fish by ya next time. I dont talk too much, I enjoy silence while fishing half the time.
Spinning rod for me next time for those perfect 100meter casts
Side question. Is abu 6601 c4 acceptable for sturgeon in tidal? Or would I burn the thing out?
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aaronwilde
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What time u going? Ill go too but i bike so im not motivated at 4am to bike so far haha. Ill show up sometime in the am most likely. Lol hippies haha so ill leave my guitar at home i guess
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Knnn
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Spent 5 hours down at the beech on Saturday - NADA. The only fish I saw caught was a starry flounder on a fly...awesome.
However, today I caught my first ever Sock and on a fly, right under the nose. It was a good day, well worth the dozen flys I lost and $30 of gas.
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MoeJKU
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Prunhead, that is what I have in the freezer my self this year. Tidal limit is 4 a day so the numbers go up pretty fast.
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aaronwilde
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Has anyone ever tried cured roe in the ocean before? I was thinking since the cap has a bait ban.. Could I drift roe under a float at the mouth from the train bridge boundary? Theres some flow there and I thinks its fairly fresh water depending on the tide. I wonder if that would work
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Knnn
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Ooops, sorry dump, still jet lagged so my post was a little succinct and confusing (boy I wish we could catch sockeye at Ambleside beech). I was at Ambleside on Saturday and then on Sunday fished the Fraser, hence the $30 of gas. I fished a quite spot on the Fraser, where there is some clearish water and no bouncing betties because the bottom is very snaggy, hence I also lost quite a few flies.
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mefishguy
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When are the commercial sockeye fishermen scheduled to fish? Thanks
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prunehands
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Today 11-5
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Hi Speed
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island 22 boat launch
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aaronwilde
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That picture makes me feel like a peasant, or even less considering those people with boats are kind of peasants compared to richer people. I take transit around or ride my bike to fish, yet theres so many people with trucks and boats, living the dream hahaha. I dont think ive ever been on a boat aside from the ferries a few times must be good numbers showing by now? At least I got one this year thanks to my buddy Alex :D
It almost looks like a car lot where they come with trailers included haha
Edit: or am I REALLY missing out? Loool
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prunehands
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Hey Moe, you been out in the salt the last few days?Trying to get out tomorrow .Sandheads or T-10?
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-Goin'Fishin'-
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Got spooled by a sturgeon this morning around 530 while bouncin for socks.
Took all my line off slow and steady. Just couldn't stop the bastard. Finally after he nearly broke off my knot on the cylinder the hook slipped. Got all my gear back
Won't lie... 2 minute sturgeon nearly spooling you was way better than any sock lve caught.
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alexfromrichmond
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gf lol , I had my 1st sturgeon last Friday with old man who fished only for them , he gave me some tips , and babysitted me on Friday evening. I got my first one it was so cute )) he told me how to handle em and gave me more tips . in 1 day I went fishing , I got 5 sturgeons , biggest one was 5 feet .
will trade sturgeon exp for sox/springs
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63vette
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looks like half the gong show lost their fishing hole at Peg Leg lol got washed out yesterday the lower part of the bar.
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sudsy
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Still coming in Fresh ...
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Knnn
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First of the Chum?
(in the Fraser, at stream confluence hence the clear water)
Surprised the hell out of me!
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coto
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wow thats the earliest ive seen a chum hooked in the lower mainland so far , were you bottom bouncing ?
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Knnn
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Nope, I was fly fishing (and catching) sockeye using a small orange GP. Surprised the hell outa me.
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Hi Speed
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still fresh
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Monahan
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Curious, is that a seal bite on the sockeye(top)?
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Hi Speed
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yes it is
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63vette
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Chum are in a lot of systems in August,Nik and Serp have lots in them now to name a couple.
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Monahan
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Caught a sock last week with one nasty seal bite on its side, must have been 8 inches long.
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FrayedKnot
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A guy I fish with swore he got sick eating a fish with seal wounds and wont doit again, he released one few weeks back and reminded me of the story. Any merit to that thinking?
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swagfishdayz
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Nice fish guys
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postelsia
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Tried fishing under the Rosedale-A Agassiz bridge for a few hours thus morning. Not a single bite. Then found out there was a fishing bet string across the river about a km down river! Better luck next time!
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postelsia
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Fished at Gill Rd bar yesterday. Didn't catch anything buy some gear and lines that people had lost in the river before. I noticed that a couple of the setups had a line with four consecutive hooks on it!! WTF?! Any how, it was a successful cleanup day for my kids. I got them to pick up the garbage on the beach while me and their dad fished. Hoping to head out again today after work.
How's everyone else doing out there?
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TR78
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Seems you know your stuff. Headed to chase to fish for some sockeye tmrw. Any advice. Been down to hope and had good luck. But never the Thompson. Thanks in advance.
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cagey
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don't waste your time in the South Thompson in the Chase area. Better to try below Kamloops Lake for sox.
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