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Anonymous

Can someone please give me directons to the scale bar. As well do you think it would be productive bottom bouncing right now? Thank you. Bertoli
Anonymous

ITS PROB 2 HIGH 2 FISH IT RIGHT NOW !
Alex


Here is the most recent chart for the water level near Hope. It is fishable when water level is below 6 meters, but it gets comfortable at 5.50 m.

It is a little early for the Scale Bar, but with all of the springs entering the Fraser it may become hot in just few weeks.

It is a 1.5km hike. Check "getting there" directions here:

http://www.sharphooks.com/tripplanner.aspx?lakeid=225&subpage=directions
gooey

Everyone should be aware that DFO does not want to see people flossing the early springs. There was talk last season of putting a leader length restriction in place on the fraser (all season long) to minimise the targeting of these early springs by flossers.

The sockeye fishery is a meat fishery which I why I think we get away with snagging (flossing) these fish. Lets not ruin the sockeye meat fishery by flossing other runs too...its bound to attract the scrutiny of the DFO sooner than later.

I dont know if its connected (I think it is) but I have seen more and more flossing of steelhead and other salmon species on rivers like the Chehalis, Vedder, and even the Capilano (theres a frickin bouncing betty hanging from a tree in the Cable Pool!!!!). I cant help but think that this increase has come from people being exposed to flossing on the Fraser for sockey.

I must say I dont like this trend.
gooey

Everyone should be aware that DFO does not want to see people flossing the early springs. There was talk last season of putting a leader length restriction in place on the fraser (all season long) to minimise the targeting of these early springs by flossers.

The sockeye fishery is a meat fishery which I why I think we get away with snagging (flossing) these fish. Lets not ruin the sockeye meat fishery by flossing other runs too...its bound to attract the scrutiny of the DFO sooner than later.

I dont know if its connected (I think it is) but I have seen more and more flossing of steelhead and other salmon species on rivers like the Chehalis, Vedder, and even the Capilano (theres a frickin bouncing betty hanging from a tree in the Cable Pool!!!!). I cant help but think that this increase has come from people being exposed to flossing on the Fraser for sockey.

I must say I dont like this trend.

PS - I just bought a bar rod today so I can fish the springs "properly".
monstercaddis

Two things: In regards to "flossing" the Springs, Wouldn't a longer leader(8-12 ft.) float higher in the water column as oppsosed to a shorter leader (2-4) which would hug the bottom more closly? As the Springs migrate up river with their bellies practically rubbing the bottom wouldn't the shorter leader be more effective? I thought thats why the Sockeye were flossed on long leaders as they prefer the middle water column. Maybe ive got my bottom bouncing info incorrectly? Secondly, in that link to scale bar, that spot says no fishing, Ive heard this is because of severe bank erosion is it still fishable or do you have to go farther downstream? Thank you, Bertoli
gooey

the very top of the scale bar is the most productive sping water in the run. the 3 factors that I think lead to that areas closure are:
1) the top of the scale bar closely borders some private land and there was a problem with garbage and people trespassing as they came and went from the river
2) it seems a majority of the altercations/fights I heard about came from the upper end of the bar too

In terms of leader length your betty is always bouncing along the bottom and the hook does get down to the bottom too. the more line between the hook and the weight means more line to floss a fish with.
Anonymous

ah I see. The things you can learn through a website. Now as i am new to this Fraser river fishery let me ask, is it taboo to "floss" springs? i thought bottom bouncing was accepted for anything on the Fraser. Please correct me.
geoff

the other year dfo was concerned with flossing early run *sockeye* - not springs. and yes, longer leader ends up higher in the water column. long leaders generally work for spings as well, but you should use heavy weights to get to the bottom and take the leader down quickly.
gooey

"Geoff" what you are saying is more wrong than right. DFO was concerned with flossing being used to target the early springs because the fishermen were hitting more sockey than anything else. At that point, the socs were closed. The hooking of these fish that were out of season was the main issue behind the proposed restrictions.

And to answer the question that was asked: My personal opinion flossing is getting out of hand. The sockey fishery is a meat fishery, so floss away (I do) but if a run/fish will bite then flossing should not be used to "Hook" (actually snag) them. One of my other posts cited how rivers like the chehalis, vedder, and cap are getting flossers now which is rediculous.

I don't think the early springs need to be flossed, they are aggressive and attack spoons, spinners, bait, and spin-n-glo's...I wont target them by flossing but thats just me.
fisher88

any other bars good at this time of year for springs??
Dynamite kid

I have heard from very reliable sources that this trend towards flossing everything that swims in the Fraser,will result in permanent leader restrictions .If these leader restrictions are not followed than the obvious course for fisheries to take would be complete closure of these salmon openings .Do yourself and future fishers a favor and fight the urge to snag salmon,you are no different than a guy casting treble hooks and weight at a pool full of salmon.I do support the snag fishery for Sockeye as the # of fish support a harvest type fishery,once you get your 2 sockeye try bar fishing or hit a local river for summer springs ,but please do not stay and damage sockeye that are on a massive journey.This year will see warm water and these fish will have enough problems of their own.
bug pumper

remember what you just said..in July,Gooey. Heh,heh.

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