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FishFreak

I HATE IT
Anonymous

What's up?
Anonymous

cry me a river
hawg hunter

Now hate is a pretty strong word. What troubles you? Specifically. I can honestly say frusterating would describe my thoughts most of the time. But when you finally hook into a Steelie, it makes it all worth while. Lets see I have been there probable 20 times since December. Have had my vehicle broken into, weathered the below zero temps, but last week caught a nice fish. I would have to say it was all worth it???


Dyer Straits

Freak, put in your time. I don't think you have put in the right amount of time fishing with confidence. It is either that or you are using the wrong methods. Vedder steelhead can be difficult to catch, especially with the amount of guys on the river. Learn the river to a point where you know where the fish like to sit and you have some personal favourite holes. Don't just give up on it man. Put in your time, don't get frustrated and learn the right techniques, something that comes in time. With a little luck and lots of confidence you will catch fish.
hawg hunter

Well said "Dyer." Of my numerous trips to the Vedder I have concentrated on one area, only venturing to another on the real real cold day. I have used , in my opinion, almost every possible spinner, wool combination, worms, jigs etc. I was there one weekend and guys on both sides of me caught fish. Talk about frusterating. Dyer, your bit on confidence, you are absolutely right. If you don't honestly believe you are going to catch fish you probably never will. Don't get me wrong I do not profess to be the "ultimate" fisherman, however, I have read as much as I could and try to spend as much time on the water as possible. Even on days you may think the river is not fishable. Put in the time and it will come. Granter I would trade luck for skill any day of the week. I just happened to be very lucky. My 2nd time out last year(which was the first year I tried steelhead fishing) I caught a nice Steelie. This year it took a lot more work but it did pay off. Hang in there.
smelly roe

Last week on saturday, I watched a guy pull a steelhead out on the rocks about 30 feet from the water. As I went over to congratulate him, I noticed he had a very basic setup. $40 canadian tire mooching rod and a big coffee grinder spinning reel.It was his first day ever steelheading and he didn't know that you can't keep wild steelhead.-it was just his luck that he had a 12lb hatchery doe. After telling him he was very lucky to catch a steelhead on his 1st try, I told him some of the rules regarding catch and release. It was a nice conversation. Well he was back again on sunday and he got another one!! So it goes to show you it could happen anytime, just keep putting in your time. It's worth it.
FishFreak

I guess i will try it again obviuosly, just starting to get a little annoyed going out there EVERYTIME and not getting any sniffs, i like to use jensen eggs and white or peach wool, i noticed alot of people useing this setup today and has for my float i will start shallow and keep moveing it up till i get near the bottom then i will do lots of casts into different spots when i caught those 2 steelies at the Chehalis im trying the same method at the vedder, oh well thanx for the help oh ya and Anonymous, if you like you can come over and cry me a river over here, cause im not crying im getting annoyed fishing there so instead of replying to my post with a stupid comment why not help since im new to that river THATS WHY I PUT A POST ON HERE FOR HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fish on

I never caught one yet ,yet there were lots SH cought there this week, patience my man, patience, work the holes spend the time, your be rewarded, Stealhead are there. WORK IT!!
The Yak

there is no substitute for experience and experience takes time... keep at it..it'll come...im going to try for my first steelie next weekend... hopefully i have good luck... and hopefully ill show some skill to the guys im going with...
patience grasshopper...patience
fish on

patience grasshopper...patience :D too funny,still a virgin myself,we learn from our mistakes, i just make waaaaaay to many of them
Dyer Straits

Freak like i said, you may want ot vary your methods. Sticking with wool and jensen eggs may not be the wisest choice. Expand your arsenal and try bait (roe, ghost shrimp, deli shrimp...etc.) Try not to use what everyone around you is using as the fish will be tired of seeing the same thing thrown at them over and over eg. If everyone around you is chuckin roe, throw on a pink worm. Get the idea? No sense in getting frustrated. I've been there done that. Consider each outing more like a learning experience. Explore. Each time you will find new water and you may hook into a fish. Go out there with confidence, confident you will get a fish and you soon will. Vedder will get even better next month. Good luck man.
Alex

FishFreak, let me add my 2 cents and give a practical advice on steelhead fishing.

Unlike other salmon, steelhead really seems to care about NATURAL DRIFT of the bait. With other species of salmon you generally try to cast often. It is a different story with steelhead - you want your offering to stay in the water as long as you can see your float and drift it as naturally as possible.

Surprisingly it may seem, but steelhead rod/reel setup is not the best one to achieve natural drift when fishing for steelhead. As Smelly Roe mentioned - a guy with an inexpensive mooching rod and a huge spinning reel had a better luck - sure! Because this setup is perfect for drifting your offering smoothly without dragging.

Generally, a finer line gives you better results (speaking of the drift). Switching to mooching or spinning reel also helps.


Finally, use a slim float and balance it in a way to see only the very top of it - so when fish bites, it will immediately disappear under the water. At the same time it will pull you line from the reel better.


With steelhead you don't need t fish deep. 3-4 feet off the surface (including leader length) is generally enough. Steelhead is aggressive and will rise to pick up your bait.


Again, natural drift is the key! Assuming all other factors meat

Tight lines & sharp hooks!
Anonymous


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