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abe

o'kay i guess its better late than never, i hope this will help some of you out.
abe


this is what you will need
abe


first cut a 2'-3' piece of 40lb.+mono, slide a bead on the line and loop it back through the hole in the bead twice as shown.
abe


slide the bar rig on the line and do the same with the second bead as you did with the first bead.
abe


tie a swivle to each end of the line as shown
abe


rig up your spinner as shown. your going to want to use a realy heavy mono line for this 40lb.-60lb. the line needs to be realy stiff and thick so it will stick out straight and not tangle up on it self. this line is also going to take alot of wear with the spinner spinning on it all day, so your going to want to check it for signs of wear offten, if it looks worn change it right away.
abe


attach your spinner to the bar rig this line should only be 4"-6" long, any longer than that its going to get tangled up on the other line.
abe


tie the swivel on to your main line
abe


tie your weight on with a piece of 15lb. mono as shown. you want to use 15lb. to tie the weight on so that if your weight gets snaged (it will get snaged) the 15lb. line will snap and you wont loose all of your gear. for fishing in the fraser right now with the water so high your going to need a realy weavy weight at least 16oz. or bigger in faster water.
abe

thanks again bentley, i allready tied one up the other way i just had to have a break for a sec. this second one of the two is the better set-up its just a bit more pricier but as bentley said it slides down and is more direct to the fish.
abe


this is what you will need for this set-up
abe


rig up your spinner the same as before with 40lb-60lb.mono
abe


rig your weight up like shown, use 15lb. mono
abe


attach the weight to the bottom of your bar rig.
abe


attach your set-up to your main line. slide the bar to the top of the wire and put 1/2 a tooth pic or piece of wood into the small plastic sleeve.
abe


when the river is muddy you can take a small nail heat up one end of it and push the hot nail through ONE of the blades on your spinner.
abe


you should end up with a hole like this one, ths will make your spinner shake and throw off sound as it spins in the current atracting more fish. roe works best as bait on bar rigs, roe also atracts pike minnow so bring lots and put it on in big chunks. if theres a bait ban on you can use wool with some scent on it insted of roe.
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I also run a longer leader like bently. I've been running around a 3 foot leader or so forever with very good results!
If you hone in on a good fish path you with catch springs with this setup. I've taken many springs and jacks bar fishing over the years with the above setup. With different size/color spin'glows that is.

Also the weight showing in the picture is too small for the bars we fish around Chilliwack area. You will need
12-18 oz's to keep your rig on the bottom. Good luck. I'll be out fishing once the water drops!!! Can't wait
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bently that video your talking about takes me back.
Rod's using what looks to be a good old daiwa 275 reel. lol! And good old Nick! If you want to know anything about fishing the fraser.. just talk to him. He's one of the best!

Got to love when fishing was not all about your $1000 plus rod and reel setup! Only about catching a fish and having a good time with friends. I might just pull out my old reel and use it this year just for kicks. I could use a sore knuckle or two.
hunter22

Hey everyone I've tried a few of these bar set ups. The tooth pick is a great way to keep the gear up and in place.

One question though. what length are you using from the wieght to the lead line for Coho? and second question, does this rigging change if your bottom bouncing or flosing as it is called?
bassmaster5000

thanks for the info im just starting to try bar fishing but one more question when is it best to go i herd thde fraser is still kinda high
aaronwilde

How fare out would you cast a Chinook bar set up? Would fishing an inlet be okay? Or do you think right in the main current of the Fraser?
G.A.

see if this works this time./....

if you can get to a bar safely id try. most are in boats still till water comes down some
G.A.

how far out to cast depends on where you are and drepth and speeds of water., when i used to bar fish at deroche i was barely 20 foot out. other places that where shallower was way out. big fish = fast water. read the currents in the river wherever your at
Fish'n BC

15 lb mono may work on the small weights in the pictures, but when I tried it on larger weights they would snap off during casting once in awhile. Recomend using a minimum of 20 lb mono for the weights.
G.A.

something wrong if your breaking 15 pound line just casting. but i wouldnt even concider running 15 pound for salmon on the other hand. for me my leader for hook is always more than main line for the teeth on them.
your casting mere ounces so not sure why 15 pound would snap

i just saw above abe saying to use 15 for weight but my weight is the most expansive part so i wouldnt run that light. wont take much of a snag to loose weights every time.
G.A.

are they snapping off when you get backlash and it stops dead from 50 mile an hour? or something binding in the reel?
Fish'n BC

Might be some binding in the reel, but as you indicated; the weights are expensive and you wouldn't want them to break off that easy on snags anyway. As long as the mono on the weight is less than the main line, and for bar fishing the main line shouldn't be less than 30 lb.
G.A.

im opposite then. i go bigger on leader than main...30 to 40 main and for me up to 80 leader...mono. ive lost to many because of their teeth. and thick leader for me helps keep that section untangles from main line
G.A.

and actualy now running braided my main will be 60 to 80, why not if i get same diameter and amount on spool and have that added strength
Fish'n BC

No, I was talking about the line to the weight. Like you: I also go bigger with the leader...minimum 40 lb mono leader when using 30 lb main line and 20 lb line to the weight. I'll use 60 lb mono leader with my 150 lb (braid) main line on my bigger rod (no spring is breaking off that...lol).


Haven't tried 80 lb mono leaders, but I would think they would be difficult to tie on the hooks?
G.A.

ok i see where going diff. i dont run line down to the weight. so the leader with T-bar on it is 80 pound for me and i put the hook at bottom on the swivel.

whats the thinking on the need for line down to your guys weights?
G.A.

next week ill be digging the spin glo gear out and maybe ill do some pics or something on how i do my stuff.
i think its kind of like the slider for my sturg on the leader. i never used one before but ha=ve this season and yet to find a difference. i get the idea but when its all connected to 1 line it kinda doesnt make sence, if it pulls it pulls everything. the weight is no way going to just sit there t slide between them sliders. hard enough to not loose the rod from your hands to see a 12oz weight now move.
Fish'n BC

I just picked up some sliders for sturgeon myself. I think the idea is you can give the line a tug once in awhile to move the bait around, inducing them to bite (ok...suck and swallow...lol) instead of just hovering over the bait for a long period.

For salmon bar rigs I'm using the second one that Abe shows above with a 2' leader. The idea of the line to the weight is if the weight gets snagged it will break off before the T bar and spin n glo...or more importandly...the fish. I just find 15 lb mono too lite and it breaks off too easy, so I use 20-25 lb mono line to the weight.
SnowCone

What color spinn and glows do u have the best sucses with
G.A.


my fav is the clown...
G.A.


ignore the hooks. not legal. its juts arandom web image toshow colours more so.

same with this box..random images but similar colours your looking for....for springs
G.A.

and chrome body coloured tops work well also
abe

the yellow orange one works good on cloudy days and the blue scales and chrome works goood for sunny days, those are the only colours that i ever run on my bar rigs for the last few years i have tried other colours but they seam to be the best for me. and the leaders can go longer if you want, i just like to tie them short so that they dont tangle when you cast it out. also in shalower water 10'-15' deep fish closer to the bottom like 1'-2'off bottom and in deeper water like 15'-25' you can fish higher like 3'-4' off bottom.
SnowCone

someone told me that greens and oranges work good the green for shuer cuase springs like green wool on the river
G.A.

greens always been good for me
Fish'n BC

Dark colors like green tops and larger sizes like 0 or 00 reportedly work better in low visibility muddy water, once the water clears up some then the brighter colors and smaller sizes reportedly work better.

I picked up some of those new UV ones recently to see how they work.

In any case: you should have an assortment of colors to change over to depending on water and daylight conditions.
SnowCone

the uv are great i had some in my vest last season for coho on the veder so i threw one under a float about 6 foot depp and they were kiling it for a good 3 weeks the silver with hot pink top work great
abe

hell ya it would be great to have an assortment of colours, but if your fishing on a budget like most of us are and you cant afford to go buy 20 or 30 asorted spinners. just go with the colours shown. like my father always said "if it aint broke, dont fix it" lol
Fish'n BC

Of course, by assortment I was thinking three or four to cover both ends of the color spectrum...like those shown.

If I had 30 I'd spend way too long just trying to decide where to start...lol...I already have enouph trouble trying to choose a fly for fly fishing. Keep it simple.



Abe - you describe choosing colors based on light conditions, do you take water clarity into account? If so, what do you recommend?
abe

when it come to water clarity i dont worry to much about colour, i worry more about sound and scent. your spinner naturaly makes a sound when its spins, so when there is low visability you want to put a whole in one of the blades on your spinner like i showed in the pics. this will make your spinner wabble a bit on the line and makes more sound in the water when it spins, so the salmon will come to investigate it. also when theres low visability i like to use a junk of roe dosed in scent. you will be getting pike minnows and pesky bull heads with roe and scent, but its well worth it when you catch the big boy. oh and one more thing when you put a hole in one of your blades the spinner will wear through the leader line faster, so keep an eye on it and change it if you see any signs of wear to the line. it sure suck to get that big spring on and snap your leader.
Fishslippers

What is everyones opinion on sin n glo size depending on current and flow? Im usually fishing lower Fraser in Abby, and its obvious they dont spin as fast in the slower flow.
abe

always go big in the fraser, if your going to bar rig in the vedder you could go a bit smaller because the water is more clear, but i would go big there too personaly.
G.A.

id agree with abe. ive always used big stuff in the fraser
cagey

with salmon season coming up this thread has to be bumped. I'll try to find a couple of other threads of Abe's work.

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