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el-nino2010

having 5 coho in the freezer so far the guys wanted a little fun so we went to the stave river in mission. chum salmon in the 25 to 40 lb range were the quarry. caught and released over 15 chum salmon over 20lbs with largest a nice bull male chum in the 40lb range. awesome fun. these fish are huge and the do put up a huge fight. used spoons and spinners red orange and blue. back to catching edible fish next week on the vedder!
The Yak

Im going to try for them on the fly sometime soon...ill let you know how i do...
Rodbreaker


"with largest a nice bull male chum in the 40lb range"
That is complete and utter bunk!
The largest Chum ever caught was only 36 pounds-it's all All Tackle IGFA record.
Why do people feel the need to lie to build themselves up-especially when we all know that they're lying?
el-nino2010

i guess you were there rodbreaker. you da man!
gooey

I havent been on this board in ages...nothing like a good piece of fiction to welcome me back....40 lb chum YA RIGHT.

el-nino2010

i'm not going to pretend you know what your talking about without actually being there gooey so thats that. geez what a trouble maker!
gooey

I have been sport fishing bc for 15+ years and have commercial fishing experience as well...never have I heard of or seen a chum that big!

I just google chum and record and indeed the largest sport caught chum weighed in around 35-36lbs. Other State records included fish from 23-28 lbs.

You are still going to try to convince us you caught 4 chum 20-25 and one 40lb'er??? Just come clean man. Did you actually get these fish on a scale? Could you maybe have over estimated the weight? Do you have any measurements to support your report. A 40 lb chum is indeed world class....did ya at least take a piture??

el-nino2010

just go there and catch one yourself gooey! if anything your just talk! try posting something useful for a change eh!
Steelheader

[removed personally by steelheader because not wanting to stir the pot]
Rodbreaker


Until we see a photo of this 40# Chum the kid's remarks are worth the paper they're printed on.
LMAO!!!!
Fishin is bad medicine

I read in the book FRESHWATER GAMEFISH OF NORTH AMERICA that Chums up to 45 pounds have been caught commercially. Not sure how reliable the imformation is though......
gooey

The largest chinook I know of taken commercially is 109lbs! Commercial records are always much larger than sport.

It is obvious from this guys lack of actual evidence (pics, measurements, etc) that he was grossly exagerating. I mean a couple of chum over 20lb in a day is rare let alone "FIFTEEN and another OVER 40" ROTGLMAO!

On another post he states he uses 20lb leader on the stave (for chum) and vedder (for whites)!?!?!? My fraser rod is the only river rod I have (of about 10) with line over 15 lbs. I usually fish 8-12lb leader during spring/coho season. IMHO I really dont think he knows what he is talking about - maybe he confused a 40 lb SPRING with a chum...I could buy that!
cagey

what is the big deal. it is hard to catch and release a big salmon and weigh it too!!! some of those dog salmon are huge. i have caught a few on the stave that would have pushed 40 lbs. when i was a kid i caught them in allouette river that were well over 30 lbs. the point of it was el nino had a fun day and told the rest of us about it. isn't that what this site is about? keep up the reports el nino.to the rest of "us" let's cut out all the negative comments.
stink finger

chums get big but 40 i doubt you would catch 1 or more that size. 20 to 30 maybe in that river.
Bertoli

i dont even think he went fishing
el-nino2010

thanks cagey. me and the guys looked at gooeys remarks and we must say this fellow has never fished the stave river. but the point is we released these huge fish one after the other and it was agreat day of fishing. many anglers there were fishing the wrong way with the wrong setup. if you know what you are doing it and the fish are there it can make for a great day of fishing. insulting comments like gooeys and rodbreakers are just plain untrue and uneducated. no wonder so many ex members are using fwr instead of sharphooks. by the way i cuold have taken some pics of those huge chum but we were all having bites one after the other.....its just a chum you know!
Tavin02

WELL SAID!!!!!!
kelly

Chums are fun fun fun to catch. But 40 lbs id say under 30 40!!! i have to admit it sometimes over exagerate by a pound or two but a 40 pounder i would be keepin that if i could and get a world record!!!!!! i have seen 20 pounders and a few 25s
cagey

i had a week of chum on the stave 3 yrs ago. they wore my arm out to the point i couldn't have fought another fish for a week! broke a rod too! one day i landed 45 fish!
there are some awful big fish in there!
gooey

Cagey and El, I don't think anyone would appreciate a report where the numbers of fish or their size was exagerated. People use these chat boards to make descisions on where and when to fish. I am very confident that the report was over exagerated. He really didnt step up to defend himself either which just made the report look more fictional. Bottom line is that an exagerated report is not a good thing period and it discredits this board and the person making this post. As all you young pups like to say "keep it real"!
reach

As to the commercially caught large chum, yes, 45 lb is within the realm of possibility. My father weighed four fish he picked out from a delivery once and the four fish totalled 163 pounds. This was from a run on the central coast that is known for large chums.

But this was decades ago and a long way from the Stave. In my 18 years of commercial salmon fishing I have only seen a handful over 30 pounds, and none over 35 I think. FWIW
cagey

i agree gooey. false reports are not wanted, nor is all of the negative comments. maybe el nino's idea of what a 40 lb fish looks like is a bit out of whack. big deal. he says he caught 15 fish. that is easy to do on the stave if the tide is right. like i said in an earlier post i was there 3 yrs ago and my worst day was 20 landed. it was a slow day, only landed 3 per hour. i had one day where i was landing 5 fish an hour. we fished for a total of 10 hours that day and as i said previously i landed 45 fish that day. unfortunately you weren't there that day. it was a great day. my two buddies are beginners and both landed over 20 fish. you mentioned you have been fishing for 15 yrs. i was catching fish for 30 yrs before that and after all those years i don't have to make up stories although sometimes 30 lb fish still look like 40 lb'ers. maybe elnino was having that same problem. either way he had a hell of a day. have you been out lately, gooey. if so, let us all know how you did.
fisher88

Ya dude,, thats way too much. Was at the vedder today and a nice spring was taken beside me, It was massive and he estimated it only 35 pounds. I've never seen such big of a fish as that one I saw in my life. To get a dog that big,, Well it's just not going to happen around here. Maybe did your finger slip el-nino,,, 20 pounds perhaps??
Rodbreaker


I note that the largest fish taken @ the Brown Bay Chum Salmon Derby this year was 15 pounds 6 ounces.
Note that all the best guides in Campbell River participate in this event every year.
J-GLOBAL

Largest CHUM I've caught in 20 years of Salmon fishing was 22 pounds, but I've seen some big ones (20+) caught. CHUM on the salt fight better than any other salmon I've caught. I'd say 40+ is a once in a lifetime catch. I don't take/post pictures of my fish (neither do any of the people I fish with), so not having photos isn't proofe it didn't happen. Yes, sometimes fishing can be amazing (sometime's I've had trouble getting both rods down before hooking up with the next fish) when the timing and presentation is right.
A LOT of fish is WAY easier to believe than the 40+. I'd check the scale on that report.
And let us know what the right set up was....
J-GLOBAL

Largest CHUM I've caught in 20 years of Salmon fishing was 22 pounds, but I've seen some big ones (20+) caught. CHUM on the salt fight better than any other salmon I've caught. I'd say 40+ is a once in a lifetime catch. I don't take/post pictures of my fish (neither do any of the people I fish with), so not having photos isn't proofe it didn't happen. Yes, sometimes fishing can be amazing (sometime's I've had trouble getting both rods down before hooking up with the next fish) when the timing and presentation is right.
A LOT of fish is WAY easier to believe than the 40+. I'd check the scale on that report.
And let us know what the right set up was....
J-GLOBAL

Largest CHUM I've caught in 20 years of Salmon fishing was 22 pounds, but I've seen some big ones (20+) caught. CHUM on the salt fight better than any other salmon I've caught. I'd say 40+ is a once in a lifetime catch. I don't take/post pictures of my fish (neither do any of the people I fish with), so not having photos isn't proofe it didn't happen. Yes, sometimes fishing can be amazing (sometime's I've had trouble getting both rods down before hooking up with the next fish) when the timing and presentation is right.
A LOT of fish is WAY easier to believe than the 40+. I'd check the scale on that report.
And let us know what the right set up was....
tcooke

As Cagey said it was probably over estimated. It was probably released which would mean he didn'y use a scale to weight it. his would mean he weighed it by hand and if anyone here is percise at doing that I will be very impressed. The point of the report is that the STAVE RIVER IS GOOD FOR FISHING CHUM. So, all I have left to say is let it go. It's unimportant how big or not big the fish was, it might have seemed that big after fighting so many dogs.
My 2 cents.

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